Wednesday, October 22, 2008

John Martin Bentley

John Martin Bentley was born on October 23, 1853 in Pike County, Kentucky. He was the son of John Vint and Annie Potter Bentley.

In 1860 the Pike County Census showed

John V Bentley 34
Anny 30
Mary L. 8
John M. 7
Benjamin 6
Virginia 4
Elizabeth 2

In 1870 the family was

Bentley, John V. 46, farmer
Anne 39
John M. 16
Benjamin, 15
Virginia 13
Elizabeth 11
William A. 9
Rhodicia 7
Surrilda 5
James M 3

On August 27, 1872 John Martin married Malinda Addington. She was the daughter of William K. "Billy" Addington and Nancy Ann Kilgore.

Their first child was Josephone, born June 18, 1873.

On August 14, 1875 Malinda had twins -- John Vint and William.

Nancy Ann was born on October 5 1877.

Elbert Franklin was born on May 5, 1880.

In June when the census was taken, the family showed:

Bently (no e), John M. 25
Malinda 23
Josephine 6
William A. 3
John V. 3
Nancy A. 2
Elbert F., 1 month

Mary Bentley was born on July 7, 1881.

Otho Bentley was born on November 23, 1884.

Florence Caldonia was born on January 22, 1888.

Surrilda Jane was born on August 15, 1889.

Cora Lee was born on May 7, 1892.

John Martin lost his father on August 6, 1895.

Laura Belle was born on August 11, 1896.

The 1900 Census showed them as

Bently (again no e), John, head, 46, married 28 years
Malinda, wife, had 11 children, 11 living
Otho, son, 15
Florence C. daughter, 13
Surrilda J, daughter 10
Cora, daughter, 8
Laura Belle, daughter 3
Wright, Mary A. lodger, 81

This Mary Wright was John Martin's aunt. She was John Vint Bentley's sister. She married JohnWright. This is the Mary Wright that my cousin Mack and I tried to get to her grave. We are going back for another try again next month.

Annie Potter Bentley, John Martin's mother, died on September 13, 1901.

In 1910 the census was

Bently, Martin 56, first marriage 37 years
Malinda, 51, had 11 children, all living
Cora 16
Laura 12

In 1913 after having married Jeff Bentley, son of William Finley Bentley and Edia Fleming, and having five children with him, John Martin's daughter was committed to Eastern State Hospital, a lunatic asylum in Lexington.

On September 1, 1917 after spending four years, seven months and six days in the asylum she died of cerebral congestion with a contributing cause of pellagram which she suffered from for 8 years before she was committed to the hospital. I wrote a whole blog about Mary and her illness which you can go back and read. She was taken to Greenup county and buried.





In 1920 he and Malinda were living with their daughter, Cora, and her husband, Elmer Boggs in Greenup county where many in the family had moved to when they left Letcher county.

Boggs, Elmer, 28 Car Repair, Car shop
Cora 27
Lola 4
Bentley, J. M. 67
Malinda 65

In 1930 John Martin and Malinda were back in Millstone.

Bentley, Martin, 77 married when he was 18
Malinda, 74, married when she was 15
Caldonia, 39, married when she was 16
James M. 6
Elmer 5

They eventually moved back to Greenup county.

Malinda died on November 19, 1933.

Caldonia, Josephine, Otho, Nancy Ann, William, Cora Lee, Laura, Elbert, John Martin, John Vint
Caldonia, Josephine, Nancy Ann, Cora Lee, Laura Belle
John Martin, Caldonia, Not sure, Otho, Nancy Alice Bentley, Josephine, John Vint, Nancy Ann, Bill Collier, Elbert, Sabrina Craft, Cora Lee, Laura Bell



I have not heard a lot of good things said about Martin

I have heard he was lazy, but he was a stern matster over his children and wife working them very hard. I have always heard that Malinda had problems. Her great-grandfather died in a mental institution. Others in the family have suffered from mental illnesses from the Addington line. She could easily have suffered from something all on her own. What I was told was that he was mean to her, that he aggrevated her and certainly didn't make her life any easier. I have heard more than one of his children say that they hated him. I have heard some things that I will not put here.

During the last years of his life after Malinda had passed away he lived with his youngest daughter, Laura Belle and her husband, Sherman Bentley. I asked one of Laura's sons, Bob, if he remembered his grandpa staying with them. He said yes, very well. He said he remembered John Martin playing tricks on him and his brother. Tricks that ended up with he or his brother being blamed. When I asked for an example he said "like tying cat tails together and throwing them over the clothesline." Ouch! for the poor cats and whoever had to get them down and apart.



John Martin Bentley died on March 15, 1942. He was lving in Greenup, Kentucky. The family sent a telegram care of James Caudill to let the Letcher County family know about the funeral.

Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Children of Joseph Hall & Sarah Caudill: Minnie Elizabeth "Mindy" Hall

Minnie Elizabeth "Mindy" Hall was born April 25, 1882 to Joe and Sarah Caudill Hall.  She was in the 1900 census with her parents as 18 years old.  In 1901 she married Lee Johnson. He was a widower with two sons, Caleb and George.  They lived in Millstone.  By the 1910 census Minnie had five chldren, but only four of them lived:  Lula 6, Isabel 4, Alice 3 and Dewey 1 year and 4 months.

By 1920 Minnie had three more children:  Willard, Willie B, and Lola. 

On October 18, 1926 Lee Johnson died.  Minnie was on her own in 1930.  Living with her were Willard, 16, Willie , 15, Lola 12 and Bennie 7.  Also in the household listed as a boarder was Belle Davis, 25 with her children Joseph, 2 years 10 month, Herman 1 year 7 months, and Minnie Lee 1 month.  This was her daughter Isabel "Essie Bell".

Minnie and Lee Johnson's children:

Lula

Minnie married a second time to William Cain.

Who's Going to Hug My Neck First?

I haven't been well lately.  I had probably four days when I didn't even turn my computer on which is very unusual for me. I have wanted to write about grandpa Joe Hall for a long time.  I probably let the anniversary date of his death push me to finally publish something -- even if it wasn't well written.  I guess it always disturbs me that my grandmother Lettie Craft was so humilated, so worn down, so disturbed that she killed herself over Joe's activities with other women.  Some women can move on to another man.  But there are some who take their vows til death do us part seriously.  I suppose that is noble and flawed at the same time.

Obviously, Joe was a likeable man.  Definitely by the women.  The Mountain Eagle article spoke favorably of his family.  The Crafts didn't care for him, but then it was their daughter who hung herself.  I can't imagine they took it well when Druscilla married him within weeks of Lettie's death. 
I like finding out the things about people which make them come alive.  I wish I knew more about Lettie.  I wish I knew more about Joe.

I always heard he was a preacher as well as owning the store and being a post master.  At first I thought he must have been an Old Regular Baptist, but I could never understand them letting someone with so many marriages preach in the church.  Uncle John Vint told me Joe was a "no heller".  They believed that there was no hell after death, but that your hell was on earth.  I have googled no hellers and read various descriptions of the group.  Most say they were Old Regualar Baptists who split in 1924 over the no hell doctrine.

Joe was appointed as the Millstone postmaster October 7, 1890 in Letcher County, KY   He was  succeeded in this role by the appointment of Arch C. Craft on  June 22, 1892. He was appointed postmaster of the Hellier (Pike County)  post office on July 1907.  He succeeded Isabella Hall, who served from March 20, 1907 to July 16, 1907 . He was succeeded as postmaster by Shade R. Combs on March 17, 1908. He: was reappointed as the Millstone postmaster September 23, 1920 Letcher County,  He continued to serve in this capacity until his death in October 1928. Irvin Collier was named as his successor on November 22,  1928.

I wanted to know what kind of father or grandfather Joe was.  Did he pay attention to the kids?  I asked Aunt Hazel if she saw her father after he divorced her mother. 

Oh yes. I had a stone bruise on my foot. You probably don’t know what that is – it’s from going barefoot. It was ready to open. Dad came and held me and opened the stone bruise.
She went on to talk about gifts that he gave her as a child:

The first gift my Dad gave to me and Lettie was a paperback songbook. Oh how I wish I had that songbook today, but I was little and I didn’t know how much I would want it later on. The second gift we got from Dad was a little gold compact with powder. The third gift we got was a child’s umbrella.



At Christmas when I was five years old (1924) Dad gave me a little rocking chair. It was made by John Bentley. (Hazel said she still had the chair and Myrtle brought it out for us to see. Myrtle keeps a doll sitting in it now.)
This is Hazel's son Arnold in the rocking chair.
This is the rocking chair today.
Cousin Opal said that Joe always kept a yellow slicker which he would have draped over his arm.  When he would come toward them he would hold his arms out and say, "Who's going to hug my neck first?"  Hazel told me the same story.  I would like to think there were a lot of hugs.
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Nobody has questioned it yet, but if you think I made a mistake on Sarah Caudill's date of death, I might have.  It might not have been August 8th, but it was 1889. 
(1) I believe this because it is written in Joe Hall's Bible as 1889.  Everything in the Bible was written in Joe's hand except that entry.  He apparentley bought the Bible for Lettie or at the occassion of their marriage.  The marriage page is filled in with his marriage to her.  All the deaths and births and some marriages are filled in.  Sarah's death was written in by Nancy Alice Hall, his daughter.  I believe what granny wrote. 

(2)  Opal Hall Holbrook said that her dad was about two when his mother died.  She said she heard this from her mother and father.  She also spent time with Granny Siller and heard it from her.

(3)  Hazel Hall said that Alvin was about two when Sarah died and that he married Lettie right away.

(4)  It follows the pattern.  I doubt Joe was alone with five children for two years before he remarried.

I did go to the Frank Tackett cemetery where I had heard Sarah was buried to try to find her stone.  I found many Hall stones in one section.  There were several that you could not read, but appeared to fall where the Halls lay.  It is possible she was in one of those graves, but there wasn't anything I could do to say any was hers for sure.  I have not found any record of her death in Kentucky vital records.

So, though most of the genealogies you see online will list Sarah's death as childbirth when Alvin was born, I don't believe it because of what Granny, Alvin, Hazel and Siller said about her time of death.

As a post script, maybe this little saying doesn't mean that much to you, but I like knowing that Joe would come toward the children and grandchildren seeking hugs.  Uncle D. V. made up a sticker of a saying that Poppy used which read "I'm ashamed of my People".  Now it was supposed to mean the opposite was the way it was explained to me.  He made them up on the 100th anniversary of Poppy's death, but I just never got it.  I guess you had to be there.  For me, I hope someone remembers that I wanted a hug.

Monday, October 20, 2008

Joseph Hall 1865 - 1928

Joseph Hall was born on March 29, 1865 in Pike county, Kentucky.  His parents were Enoch Mahlon Hall and Nancy Hampton.  In the 1870 census Mahlon, 27,  and Nancy, 26, had four children:  Richard, 8, Joseph, 6, Mary A., 3, and William, 1.

On September 16, 1879 Joe married Sarah Caudill  when Joe was 14 and Sarah was 23.  Mary Ellen was born October 4, 1880.  Minnie was born April 25, 1882.  Anzie was born October 29, 1883.  Isabella was born July 30, 1885.  Alvin was born August 8, 1887.

When Alvin was two years old Sarah died on August 8, 1889.  On August 30th Joe married Lettie Craft, the daughter of Chunk Craft and Polly Ann Caudill.  He was 24 and she was 17.  Their first child was Polly Ann Hall who was born September 20, 1890.  Leonard was born December 16, 1891.  Rachel Virginia was born June 10, 1894.  Enoch Mahlon was born August 10, 1896.  Nancy Alice was born March 5, 1899. 

Joe Hall and Lettie Craft

The 1900 census Joe and Lettie were:

Joseph, 36, married 10 years
Lettie E. 28, had 5 children, 5 living
Minnie E., 18
Anzie, 16
Isabella, 14
Alven, 12
Polly A., 9
Leonard B. 8
Rachel V., 5
Enoch M., 3
Nancy A., 1

William Basil was born June 18, 1900.  Pricy was born January 21, 1904.

When I met Joe's daughter, Hazel Hall Hughes, the first thing she said about her father was, "My daddy loved women."  I don't know what he was like during his marriage  to Sarah, but apparentley when he was married to Lettie, there were other women.  He at one point operated a store.  He sometimes was gone overnight on  "buying trips".  On one of the trips he came home with someone's stockings in his pocket.  Lettie hated being cheated upon.  She watched and finally caught him cheating.  On March 27, 1905 she went to the barn and hung herself.

My first thought was why didn't she leave him, divorce him or shoot him?  It had to do with the way women were in that society.  I saw it in my grandmother.  I saw in my mother.  I have seen it over and over in the family history.  It's certainly not how every woman lived, but many of the women married and that was for life. It would have been a failure in their character to leave or admit that they had anything but a successful marriage.  For Lettie to committ suicide was a great humilation to Joe.  This is how she meant it and he was very disturbed that she had done this "to him." 

On April 22, 1905 he married Lettie's first cousin, Druscilla "Siller" Craft.  She was the widow of Miles Mayo Adams who had died in 1905, too.  She had two daughters with Mayo:  Louisia Jane (aka Eliza Jane) and Lettie.  She had no children with Joe.

Joe Hall and Cillar Craft Adams

Leonard married a Profitt girl.  He was 16.  Despondant because his new wife would not sleep with him, he shot and killed himself.

In the 1910 census Joseph is listed as being in his second marriage, this one 5 years long.  Cillar is also listed as being in her second marriage and that she had 2 children, both living.  Also in the household:  Enoch Maylan, 13, Nancy Alice 11 and Basil 8.

In 1914 Joe had a daughter, Atta May, with Dianah Cornelia Webb.  They marry on May 20, 1916.  Josephine is born on August 11, 1917.  Atta May died in 1918.

In the 1920 census Joseph is 55. Cornelia is 35.  Living with them is her son Hugh Cashion 15, Josephine 2 and Russell and Charles Webb, two more of Dianah's children. 

In January 1918 Joe married Martha Ann Tackett.  Hazel was born May 28, 1919.  She lives in Cleveland now.

Hazel Hall, Lettie Hall and Martha Tackett Hall

He married Dianah a second time on August 19, 1919.  Henrietta "Ritter" Hall was born November 12, 1920.  Apparentley Joe was still seeing other women.  His daughter, Lettie, was born to Martha Tackett Hall on February 22, 1924.

There was no love lost between Dianah and Martha. Here is a story Hazel told me about her mother and Dianah:


Mommy lived on the same branch as Diana and Joe. She had to pass their home many times. Once when Mommy was passing Diana ran out of her house and tried to throw scalding water on her. Mommy called her a “B.” Diana took her to court. Sandy Adams was judging. He found Mommy innocent, but he had to charge her something so he made the fine three cents. Mommy refused to pay. Mr. Adams said, “You mean you would rather go to jail than pay three cents?” Mommy said she wouldn’t pay a penny to that woman. The judge paid the three cents out of his pocket so she wouldn’t go to jail.


Joe took care of Martha and the girls.  They lived in a small building by the store owned by Mary Bentley.  Hazel went on to tell this story about what was going on in the time before Joe's death:

When Dad died we lived in the feed house. We had a Yale lock on it. Mom said that someone was rattling the lock like they were trying to get in. She kept an ax by the door. She went to Joe and told him somebody was trying to break in. She asked him to get her a shotgun. He told Marthy he didn’t have the money to buy a shotgun, but he said he had a pearl handled pistol and he would go and get it. It hung behind the door. Daddy said it was gone. Daddy was killed by that gun.







I was in Diana’s house and that same gun lay on her mantle. I had the strongest urge to take it, but I didn’t. I just felt like I should pick it up and take it home. Daddy told Mommy he couldn’t find the gun. If Daddy shot himself, there should have been powder burns on him. The coroner told everyone there were no powder burns on him.






Myrtle’s Dad, Arthur Johnson, was under the porch playing with Charlie and there was a washtub full of bloody clothes. Then they were gone.






We lived in that house after Elzie and I were married. Back then you just lived wherever you could. Josephine said when our Dad died it sounded like someone was throwing rocks against the house. He was killed on the porch. They scrubbed up the blood, but you could still see the stains. I scrubbed and scrubbed them, but I could never get it out.


Opal Hall Holbrook also reported that Joe had told her parents, Alvin and Mary Hall, that the gun which he kept in the store was gone about a week before his death.


Joe Hall killed himself on October 20, 1928.  The Mountain Eagle ran the following obituary on October 25th:


Late Baptist Preacher and Post Master Kills Self

Word from Millstine (sic) reached town Saturday morning stating Joe Hall, about sixty years of age and for about forty years occasionally a minister of the old Baptist Church had on the night before shot himself, dying instantly. Why he had committed this act no one seems to know. His wife says that for some days he had been unwell and had been acting strange. About two o'clock in the morning he arose from a fitful sleep, walked from the room to the outside and fired the fatal shot. Before she could reach him life was extinct. The ball entered his right temple and passed through his brain.



Joe Hall had been Postmaster at Millstone for a great number of years. A nupright and strict business man, there was none better. He had been married as many as six times and leaves two or three still living wives. He also leaves a number of children.


Joe Hall belonged to an excellent family. Worry and broken health lead ( sic) to his taking his own life. We extend sympathies to those left behind.

His daughter Nancy Alice Hall Bentley  said he didn't do it. His daughter, Hazel Hall Hughes, says he didn't do it. Opal Hall Holbrook, his granddaughter, says he didn't do it. I have never talked with anyone in the family who believed that his had killed himself.
 
The newspaper article said he went outside and shot himself.  When the bullet was removed from the body by the undertaker when he was preparing the body for burial at the home in Millstone, it was lodged in his arm.  It made more sense that Joe had been lying on his side with his arm resting under his head as if he had been sleeping instead of putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger.

Hazel said

Daddy was killed. He was living with Diana at the time. The coroner said he was laying in the bed sleeping and the shot went in one ear and out the other then to his arm and he took the bullet out of Dad’s wrist.
 
Opal said the undertaker, Mr. Swisher, came to the home on Millstone and prepared the body for burial.  He removed the bullet and gave it to Basil Hall, Joe's son.  It was consistent with bullets used in the gun which had been missing.  Basil had it in his pocket when he went to the graveyard.  He did not have it when he came down from the burial.

Hazel remembers going to his funeral. 

As soon as we heard that he was shot, Mommy took us right to the house to see Dad. I know I did, but I don’t remember what he looked like laying there

I remember it (the funeral) well. My sister-in-law made me a pink dress for the funeral. It had a collar attached which went down the back of the dress. Lettie didn’t go to the funeral. She was too little.
I suppose we will never know what really happened.  Different people spin different versions of what they think happened and who pulled the trigger on that gun.  I tend to believe that he did not kill himself, but I do not know who pulled the trigger.

Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Seldom Wright Price 2

Even though I couldn't find an obituary for Seldom, I thought I would share with you the information that cousin Lois told me about her.

Seldom is one of the family members that Lois and her brother, Orville, interviewed and got to know well.  She shared her family pictures with them.  Lois, is in turn, is sharing them with us.  Lois is in the midst of a move.  When she is settled in her new home, if there are pictures of Seldom herself, or those of her family, I am sure that we will see them and I will run another update.


"Seldom was named Seldom because when after having five sons her father said "we Seldom have a girl." Quite a sense of humor wasn't it."Her younger brother, who was listed as "Commonly" in the census was actually named "Comley".  He died when he was young. She married well in choosing Mr. Price.  Her family was very proud of her and the life she lived.
She collected old cars.  One of them in her collection was a car that Queen Wilhemina rode in when she was visiting here in America.  Later, we will print some of the cars that she had in her collection.

Monday, October 6, 2008

Edward "Neddy" Boone 1740 - 1780

Edward "Neddy" Boone was the brother of Daniel Boone. He was my g-g-g-g-g-g-g grandmother Mary Boone Webb's nephew as was Daniel.
Neddy was born on November 30, 1740 in Exeter Township, Berks County, Pennsylvania. He was about ten when his father, Squire Boone, left Pennsylvania and moved to North Carolina. There he met and married Martha Bryan, a sister of Rebecca Bryan who Daniel married. Their children were born in North Carolina.
In about 1779 Daniel led a large party to Kentucky. Neddy may have been a part of this group. He could have come to Kentucky earlier.
From the Jess M. Thompson - Pike County History, Chapter 101, he wrote:
  • In the party traveled Edward Boone and his family, with 22 pack horses, besides those the family rode. Abraham Lincoln, grandfather of the President, also went out to Kentucky with this party.
  • With Edward Boone and his wife on the journey were their six children, Charity, Jane, Mary, Sarah, George and Joseph Boone. Charity was already married, her husband, Francis Elledge, being with her on the journey. Mary Boone, Charity's sister, was then about 15.
From the Boone Family, A Genealogical History, page 70, it says:
  • He (Neddy) and Daniel and several other men had gone to the Blue Licks Salt Licks to boil down salt. It took 680 galls of salt water to boil down a bushel of salt. It cost a $5 Continental bill to buy a bushel of salt. "
On their way back to Fort Boonesborough, they stopped to let the horses graze. The Story goes on in "The Pioneer and the Prarie Lawyer" by Willard Mounts:
  • Daniel and Edward Boone went hunting on Himkstone. Found a good grassy spot and stopped to let their horses graze. Edward Boone picked up some nuts and commenced cracking them on a stone in his lap and watching the horses while Daniel Boone said he would take a walk and come back by the time the horses were through picking; he had scarcely gone when several guns cracked and he saw two or three Indians after him. He darted off into the cane and was followed by a dog. Finally to evade him he stepped behind a tree and shot the dog as it approached. Indians came up and rolled over the dead dog, looked at it regretfully and departed. Col. Boone saw the Indians but thought it wisest to remain quiet. Seven balls had been shot into Edward and he must have been killed instantly."
Edward died on October 6, 1780. Martha was a young widow and she never remarried.

Sunday, October 5, 2008

1937 Bentley Reunion at Greenup, Kentucky

I already know that some of you will disagree with me on the way I have identified these pictures.  Some I could be persuaded to change because they are guesses or only things that someone told me and I do not have any other knowledge to say yeah or nay.  Others I know because I knew the person personally, there is another picture which was taken the same day and confirms who the person is.  I wish everyone could be identified and known 100%. 

Mildred Green has been identified in the picture.  I met her at the Bentley reunion this summer.  I showed her the picture wanting to get a confirmation that it was she who is standing beside Pauline Caudill.  She told me she couldn't recognize anyone in the picture even herself.

Identifying the baby that Poppy is holding was our biggest clue to dating the picure.  We went from Anna Sue to John Vint to finally who we really think it is, Teddy Bentley.  The biggest help in confirming this was Janice Bentley Norman and her family.  It looks as if Uncle Willie brought his whole family to this gathering.

Today  my granddaughter, Claire, is seven months old. I am arbitrarily deciding that Teddy looks like he is about the same age and thus am putting the gathering to be August 1937, seven months after Teddy was born.

Someone brought this picture to one of the Bentley reunions in Millstone.  I don't remember who brought it, but I was thinking it was one of the Bentleys from Greenup.  I copied it with an old 35 mm camera.  It was one of those tiny old pictures.  When I got back into working on the family tree last year, I was at Uncle John Vint's visiting with him and Nancy and Lisa.  I went through their pictures and copied a bunch of them with my digital camera.  They had this one, too, and not knowing where my copy was, I just reshot it.
When I was checking it on the computer to see how clear it was, I saw that the computer said the picture was only 27% of its size on the screen.  I had the whole picture on the screen so I began bringing it up to 100% and found that I could see the real detail.  I made this crop of the picture.
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Once we could see who the people were, Uncle John, Lisa, Nancy and I set about trying to figure out who was who.  Some were obvious.  We knew Granny, Poppy, John Martin, Aunt Atha, Uncle Willie and Aunt Stella.  Uncle John Vint identified some more.  As we went around meeting with other family that weekend -- Ernestene, Candy, Otho and Pat Holcomb, we asked them for input, too.  I eventually sent the picture to our Greenup cousins via Joe Bentley.  I talked on the phone with different members of the family that he had shared it with.  I know I don't agree with everyone, but here is what I have decided and put on the index version.  You can right click any of these photos and you should get a larger version of the picture. I saved them in the largest format that the software would allow.
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Now see the little girl beside Aunt Atha -- not the little blond -- the other one.  She has been identified as Lola Boggs.  She is Poppy's sister, Cora's daughter.  I ran across another picture of what I first thought was another gathering.  Then I realized that this same girl was in that picture.  I started comparing and now believe that it was taken at the same reunion.  I loved looking at this one to see how they had just spread things out on the ground like a real old fashioned picnic. Again, I copied it digitally and blew it up and cropped it.
There is Lola right in the center of the picture.  And guess what?  There is Pauline and Mildred down the line to her left.  I have indexed it, too, but only have four people identified.  I think that the baby beside Laura Belle Bentley might be Teddy in his mother's arms, but I can't really see enough of that to say for sure.
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I have copied this picture many times from other people, but none of them was very good.  Janice sent me her copy which I think is a very clear one.  She scanned hers from an original.
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This was taken the same day.  Altough I knew Stella, Willie and Atha, I did not recognize Aunt Nettie or Laura Jane in the big group picture.  From this picture of Poppy's children standing in birth order, I knew Stella, Willie, Nettie, Atha and Laura Jane.  I was able to look from this picture to the other to identify Nettie and Laura Jane. 
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I then took it and used Photoshop on it to try to get a few more details.  I then cropped it.