Showing posts with label Fleming. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fleming. Show all posts

Friday, December 19, 2008

Thaney & Betsy Houston


I have a better picture of Betsy and Thaney. I also found out a few more stories about Thaney.

Cousin Hazel said that "Uncle Thaney" was a very small fellow. "Aunt Betz" was big and dark. Sometimes he would fall out of the bed. He would get up and say, "well why did you let that happen?" Sometimes they would sit in the rocking chair together and she would rock him back to sleep.

Uncle Thaney carried the mail.

Once Devil John went to see Betsy's mother, Annie. Annie Wright was married to Fightin' Fred Fleming. Annie was his aunt, a sister to Devil John's father, Joel Ellis Wright. John had a big horse and wanted it to be fed. Thaney asked him how it should be fed. John said to feed the horse high. Thaney thought John might really mean that he wanted the horse to be fed a lot, but he asked John if he should put the feed in the tree so the horse could get high feed. John, not wanting to correct himself, said "yes, put the feed in the tree." Thaney did, and when reporting to John he said "I fed that horse and put that feed corn so high in the tree that I doubt he can even reach it, but it's certainly high." He was always pulling pranks.

Thaney would tell them not to marry too close in the family. He told them back off was fine, but if you married too close, you could tell it because the children would have an extra eye at the end of their noses.

Friday, December 5, 2008

Hayes Bentley 1921 - 1944



Walker Hayes Bentley was born January 21, 1921. His parents were Morgan Bentley and Isabel Fleming. He has a double Bentley line. Morgan's parents were Solomon Bentley and Mary Jane Bentley. Solomon's line goes back to John Queller Bentley who was our Benjamin Bentley's brother. John Queller and Benjamin were sons of Daniel Bentley. Mary Jane's line goes back thru to the Benjamin Bentley who was a brother to Daniel.
Isabel Fleming was the grandchild of Frederick Fleming and Nancy Ann Wright. Hayes is related to me through mom and through Dad.
Hayes was not married according to his Army enlistment records. However he did say he was single with dependents. I believe his children were Eleanor and Kenneth R. Bentley and that their mother was Octavia Stewart. Hayes enlisted in the army on July 2, 1942. Eleanor was born December 26, 1942. Kenneth was born June 9, 1944. Hayes died on September 8, 1944.
Hayes is buried in the Houston Cemetery at Goose Creek behind where R. B. & Siller Houston Meade and Denton Houston's homes used to be.

Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Betsy & Thaney's Children

Thaney and Betsy Houston had nine children that I know of: Mary, Preston, Joseph, Hannah, Annie, Lavina, Rinda Mae, Aulden "Olvin and James Denton. They married into many of my related families:

Mary , the oldest was born in 1867. She never married though she had several children with a Bentley and a Potter.

Preston was born in 1869 and died before 1880.

Joseph was born about 1870 and died on May 20, 1976 of dropsy.

Hannah was born on December 29, 1971. She died September 29, 1960. She married three times: Alexander Wright and William Milton "Milt" Meade. She had a child by Israel Jesse Adams.

Annie married only once to Joshua Mullins.

Lavina "Vina" married Rhodes Meade.

Rinda Mae married Jonathan A. "Twig" Collier.

Aulden G. "Olvin" married Susannah Wright. He also had a daughter with Mary Collier.

Oliver Denton married twice: Eliza Jane Wright and Mattie Wright.

I want to concentrate on the Colliers because of the graves I found at Goose Creek.

Thaney, Betsy and Annie


Nathaniel "Thaney" and Elizabeth "Betsy" Fleming Houston
I got started in genealogy listening to my grandmother tell about her family history. I loved sitting at the fire listening to her talk to my mother about things that had happened in the past. When I started to actually write things down I wanted to do things right and I asked for help in organizing what I thought was going to be a lot of information just because my mother was one of 21 children. I was told that I should only do one line -- the Mullins or at best the Bentleys because that was my mother's line that genealogy was about the men. So that set me on a quest to find all the women in the family. It is the women who bring the other lines into play.


Some lines I thought were hopeless back those many years ago. Like knowing my great grandmother's name was Betsy, but having no clue as to her maiden name. The same went for Maggie Perdue -- another great grandmother. For 45 years I did not know who she was. I took trips, I interviewed people, bought books, joined historical societies, spent hundreds of hours in the library and tried every way that I knew to collect information on my family.


The internet could have saved me a lot of time. There is so much good information out there. And so much incorrect information there. My greatest tool has been access to the actual census records. Over the years I had spent hundreds of dollars on transcripts of various counties and areas -- many of which contained a lot of errors and omissions.


By accessing the Kentucky Birth index and the Kentucky Death records I have found many things. One, is that my mother was one of 22 children. I had queried all births in Letcher county where the mother was named Sadie Collier. I also queried by Sadie Bentley. I was comparing what those records said versus what I had from family Bibles, interviews and other research. Up popped little Mae Bentley. I went to others in the family and no one said they had heard of her. Later, I found her actual death certificate where the informant for the document was Otho Bentley, who was also listed as her father.


I grew up thinking that baby Mary died with Sadie in childbirth. I now know that Sadie's labor was started when she was kicked by a cow when she went out to milk one day. Mary was born. Sadie died several days later. Mary did not die until several months later. When I questioned that one Uncle Joe knew and tried to locate her grave at Chunk Craft's cemetery. She was buried near the gate. We walked it all over and with the gate gone he could pinpoint the spot for sure, but he, too, verified that Mary died after her mother.


I figure if we thought all those years that Mary died in childbirth with her mother and she was one of 21, that surely Mae who has a birth certificate and a death certificate should certainly be added in for a total of 22.


As I looked for more about grandmother Annie I saw that Grandpa Joshua married again after her death. He married a woman mostly known as Susan Venters. Venters was her married name. Working through the records she was actually Susan Wright, the sister of Jesse Wright and Bad John Wright. Joshua and Susan were listed in a household by themselves in 1910. Annie's children were listed with her parents Betsy and Thaney Houston.


I wondered if this meant that there was a rift between the Houstons and Joshua over Joshua's choice for a new wife. I wondered if Joshua liked being the merry widow and chose to go with a new wife and leave the children behind. I could only wonder because no one I knew had the answers.


No one until I met Annie's niece, Alma Meade. Annie had a sister, Lovina who is listed online as Melvina, Vina, Viney and others names. Her daughter says her name was Lovina and she was nicknamed Vina.


Lovina Houston was a younger sister to Annie Houston. She was born in 1875. On October 14, 1897 she married Rhodes Meade. Rhodes was the son of James Madison and Letitia Wright Meade. Rhodes was the grandson of Thomas Kronis and Mary "Polly" Hall. Letitia Wright was the daughter of Susannah Wright and Andrew Steel. Susannah was the daughter of Joel and Susannah Wright.


Rhodes and Vina had eleven children: Oscar, Olven, Matt, Forester, John Riley, Roy, Flossie, Orville, Lala, Charlie and Alma.


The afternoon after we went to the cemetery at Goose Creek, I met Alma.


Alma is wonderful. She is 90. Her sight is failing, but she can still see shapes. She is a little hard of hearing, but all you have to do is speak up. She has a wonderful clear voice. She looks like she might be 70. She is certainly not a shriveled up little old lady. You would never know that she was 90.


I asked Alma about Thaney and Betsy and Annie. What I found out changed my perceptions regarding those census records.


Joshua did marry Susan Wright Venters, and she was mean as a snake. She was not good to his children. She was not good to him. She would not feed the children. They were starving. Grandma Betsy came and took them to her home. Alma said that when she fixed them dinner she had to stop them from eating so much because they were so hungry and she did not want them to get ill. After the children were gone, Susan tried to poison Joshua. I had always heard it was poison in his soup. Rosie heard it was in the coffee. Alma said it was in the spring water.

But, someone tipped him off and she failed in her attempt. I asked her why Joshua would let Susan starve the children or be mean to them. She couldn't answer that. I asked her why Susan would want to poison Joshua. She said she didn't know, that Susan was just a very mean woman who did things for no reason.


She went on to tell me that Joshua was a very humble man. The Houstons loved him and when he married Rosie Adams after Susan died, the children went back to his household. Who knows what someone will turn into after you marry them.


I asked if she had known Thaney and Betsy herself. She said yes. I asked if she had ever talked to him or her mother about who his father was. She said yes. She said that his mother, Hannah, had a sister, Mary. Mary married a Potter. She had Hannah come to live with them. While she was there he got her pregnant. That is the potter who is the father of Nathaniel Houston. I don't have all the siblings of Hannah. The Potter that is always pointed out to me to be Nathaniel's father is Abraham who was born in 1837 and who was married to Sarah Wright. That would be a pretty neat trick to be a father at 9 since Nanthaniel was born in 1846. Alma said that the father's name was John and he was a brother to an Abraham. She didn't recall his parents name. That is what she told me in person. On another day I called her and we talked about this again. She mentioned the name Abraham as his father, but repeated that it was Hannah's sister, Mary's husband, who was the father.


Also, when I called I asked about Betsy and Thaney and their dates of death. She said she had the dates written down and I could see them when I came back to visit her. She said Betsy died first when she was a very little girl. She said she was 13 or 14 when Thaney died. Since the last census I could find them in was 1920 and Denton no longer had them in his household in 1930, that made sense. I would approximate Betsy died about 1922 and Thaney in 1929. I have not found a death certificate for either of them.


When we walked up that hill to the cemetery I could tell from Archie's description and from the place where the Meade and Houston houses has been that we were coming in from the back of the cemetery. Robert found Jennie McCray's grave and that of her husband. We found no markers for the babie's graves, but lying behind Jennie's grave were the remants of an old rusted fence. Rosie and I tried to lift it away and we poked in the soft ground there for a stone. Archie thought there were stones for both Betsy and Thaney. We could not find them.


We only found another piece of the fence at what must have been the back right hand corner of the cemetery. Where was all the rest of the fence? My thought is that when the convicts cleaned the graves, they threw that fence over the hill. They could have thrown two old stones that might have fallen down, too. There are many rocks serving as head and foot stones in that cemetery in obvious straight lines of graves.


Rosie incovered two stones from under the leaves and growth. One grave was sunken in and its stone was down and almost sunk and covered, too. There really weren't that many Houstons in the marked graves -- more Colliers, but who knows who were in all those graves marked only with stones.


This is Thaney and Besty Houston:




Monday, November 17, 2008

Goose Creek Cemetery behind R B Meade's

I am searching for my great grandmother's grave. She was Annie Houston Mullins. She was the first wife of my great grandfather, Joshua Mullins. Their son was my grandfather, James Mullins. She died in chilbirth in 1906.

After Annie died, the children stayed with her parents, Thaney & Betsy Houston. I followed Thaney and Betsy through the 1920 cenus and then they just dropped off the records. I thought they might have died before the 1930 census, but I could not find a death certificate for either. Since I knew that there was a cemetery behind one of the family homes at Goose Creek, I thought that is probably where Annie had to be buried. I was also hoping that it is were Thaney and Betsy were buried, too.

My cousin, Rosie, verified through another cousin that Annie had been buried at Goose Creek. They did not know about Thaney and Betsy.

Rosie had the directions on finding the cemetery. We agreed since it was raining Saturday and snowy today we would go today to find the cemetery. I was anxious to see what this cemetery and knew that it would probably be behind a locked gate on the weekends, but I went anyway.

I followed Rosie's instructions and they were perfect. She was right. I ran into a locked gate. I was turning around to leave when another car came up the road. Since it is one lane, I let her come up and waited. I went down the road then turned around and went back to the car and asked about the cemetery.

Turns out one of the women in the car was Denton Houston's step-granddaughter. My Annie was Denton's sister. The other lady was a Hall by marriage. She sent me to her father-in-law's home because she said he knew everyone.

I went and Mr. Hall was sleeping, but his wife and son were the most hospitable. They told me so many things about Goose Creek. I know of four other cemeteries there. Rosie and I will try to find at least two of them.

Mrs. Hall told me that I should call one of R. B. Meade's sons. She gave me his number. The cemetery where Annie should be was behind their house. R. B. was married to Siller Houston who was Denton Houston's daughter.

Cousin Meade said he couldn't help me with Annie's grave. He said it had been 53 years since he had been there, but he couldn't remember an Annie. He said he was so sorry, but all he remembered was his grandpa's parents were buried there. Who were they? I asked. Thaney and Betsy Houston.

I asked if Thaney and Betsy had tombstones. He said "oh yes." He said when they were first buried they had houses over their graves. Over the years the houses fell apart and they were taken down. He said that when you go up there was a fence around the graves. But outside of the fence were four graves belonging to Jenny McCray, her husband, a child of Denton named Mae and a baby (who at this moment I can't remember).

He said inside the fence next to Jenny's grave was Thaney's and next to him was Betsy's grave.

I have gloves, a broom, chalk and my camera to take to the cemetery today. I will post the results after I get my main computer back and can access the pictures from my camera. It may be two weeks. Hopefully not.

I can't believe I am still connected. I have so many things that I have discovered.

Monday, October 27, 2008

Elizabeth Leatha "Lettie" Mullins Fleming

I love when I find more about someone who folks assummed was gone.  Robert Fleming and Betsy Stumbaugh had a son Robert Jefferson "Big Jeff" Fleming.  He had children with at least four women.  One of them was Elizabeth Leatha "Lettie" Mullins.  She had eleven of his children.  She was born in September of 1825 in Pike County.  Her father was William Mullins.

In most genealogies I have seen where Lettie is listed they have her date of death as April 1900.  When starting out on someone I will put down what I find but then I have to try to document.

Again, because of the contact with my Yonts cousin, I was got into working on the Flemings.  I had stopped at William "Red Billy" Fleming and left myself a note to pick it up later.  I started on it this morning. I always end up going up and down the line and as I find census records or death certificates I add the information in to document what I have.  I started going through William's children and trying to find his wife.  I found his death certificate and it said his wife's name was Nicatie Fleming.  Whenever I see the same last name for the wife, I try to figure out if the document has the real maiden name for the woman or if that truly was her family name.  So I went looking for Nickatie Fleming.

I found she was the daughter of Solomon Fleming and Mahala Sarah Mullins.  In looking for any census records for this couple I found a death certificate for a Farrell Fleming.  It was the wrong age for Kenes Farrell, one of their sons, but I determined it was their grandson.  He was coal miner in Clintwood.  He died in Letcher county when he fell from a moving train and fractured his skull and incurred other various bodily injuries.  His wife's name was Ruth.

I kept striking out on Kenes, but I had found through that death certificate that his wife's name was Lydia Deel. Well, they had it as Lybia, but I figured that was an error.  I found the 1900 census right away under her name.  Kenes was spelled Kenis by the transcriber, but there was no dot for an i on the original record.  I picked up two sisters for Farrell and saw that William Fleming lived next door to Kenes and Lydia.

With William was a sister-in-law named Deel.  Since I knew Kenes' wife was Deel, I looked harder.  Turns out this William was the one I started with on this little journey.  William "Red Billy" was living with his wife, Lydia Robinson.  Also in the household was his  mother, Letty Fleming.  Since I had the April 1900 date of death for her, I went to the top of the census records and found it was done in June 1900.  If she died in 1900 it certainly wasn't in April.

I guess that is one of the things I really like about having the census records available online.  As much as I hate the transcription errors for the indexes, it does allow me to find folks who were near to Letcher county but across a state line and therefore would have been a much harder search when using paper or microfilmed records.

One of the people I was working on the other day I believe went from Kentucky to Oregan and then back again.  I would never have looked in Oregan for him.  His wife died.  He remarried.  There was a lapse of 20 years between census records so when I picked him up again he had been married for 17 years.  Then suddenly he is back in Kentucky again.  Boy would I like to know why he moved and why he came back.  I am still working on him, but when I figure it out, I will write more of his story.

So now I am back to Red Billy and his mother and the Flemings.  I love these puzzle pieces.

Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Fightin' Fred Fleming & Nancy Ann Wright

Frederick Nelson Fleming was the son of Robert & Elizabeth “Betsy” Stumbaugh Fleming.

Maybe.

DNA testing that has been done recently shows that Frederick does not match the DNA of his brothers. I know this has made a lot of people angry, but that is what it is showing. I thought I would mention that upfront. He was certainly raised as Robert and Betsy's child. He was born in 1821 in Floyd County, Kentucky.

In 1840 he married Nancy Ann Wright, the daughter of Joel and Susannah Wright.



In 1850 Fred lived next door to Nancy’s mother, Susannah Wright. His household included
  • Anna 30,
  • Elizabeth 9,
  • Susannah 7,
  • Mary 5,
  • Viney 5
  • Jane Perlina 1.
In the 1860 the census taker spelled the name Flemondd.

  • Anna was 40,
  • Elizabeth 19,
  • Susan 17,
  • Mary 15,
  • Leviney 14,
  • Sarah 12,
  • Loveda 10
  • Jeferson 8,


In 1870 Frederick is 50,

  • Nancy 50,
  • Luvina 22,
  • Eda M. 20,
  • Sarah 17,
  • John 12,
  • Solomon 9,
  • Clarinda 9,
  • Elijah 3.


The way I have the children listed is



Elizabeth “Betsy” Fleming who first married or had a child with Robert John Frazure. Second she married my great great grandfather Nathaniel “Thaney” Houston.



Susan Fleming married Thomas Stewart.



Mary Elizabeth “Polly” Fleming married Richard euben “Dick” Hall.


Lovene/Lavina Sarah “Viney” Fleming married Winfield Scott Johnson. They both died of pneumonia – he on the 23rf of February and she on the 24th in 1921.


Jane Perlina died at age 11.


Edia “Edy” Fleming married William Finley Bentley. They were the parents of Jeff Bentley who married Otho Bentley’s sister, Mary.



Sarah Ann Fleming died at age 65, but I don’t know if she married.



William Fleming is another one that I don’t know about.



John Jefferson “Preacher Jeff” Fleming married Mary Francis Johnson.


Solomon J. “Black Sol” Fleming married Easter F. Branham.



Clarinda married Thomas Bentley. He was her first cousin. He was the daughter of Big Jeff Fleming and Esther Bentley that I mentioned in yesterday’s blog.



Elijah Andrew Fleming married Martha Jane Hall.









Frederick was known as “Fightin’ Fred” Fleming. I just assumed that he earned that name while he served in the Confederate army. He served in Company F of the 5th Kentucky Infantry. You know what assuming does. I found out that he earned the nickname because he liked to fight. Remember those old movies we would see where the fighters would come to town and set up a ring and invite the locals to take on the champ? He would fight that way. It was a pastime. He would fight friends and neighbors who also liked this pastime. That’s how he earned the nickname of Fightin’ Fred.



He died in 1878. I found his cemetery in Hemphill when I was in Kentucky in August



In 1880 Nancy Ann was the head of household. Still living with her was

  • Jefferson 24,
  • Solomon 19,
  • Clarinda 19
  • Elijah 18.


In 1900 she was living with her son, Elijah.



She died on November 18, 1904. She was buried in Speight, Pike County, Kentucky. I haven’t seen her grave yet.

Monday, September 8, 2008

Robert and Betsy Staumbaugh Fleming

Our Fleming family came from Ireland.  The oldest known Fleming in my work is William Fleming who was born in Dublin in 1738.  He was married to Virginia "Jenny" Buchanan.  She was born in Blairlush, Romelton, Donegal, Ireland.

Their son, Robert Fleming, was born on July 1, 1772 in Dublin.  He came to America before 1790 arriving in New York.  The last thing his mother gave him in Ireland was a cup of buttermilk.  The trip to America took nine weeks and 9 days.  He came alone.  Robert was in the 1790 census of Fayette County, Pennsylvania.  He lived alone in this census.

On September 21, 1809 Robert married Elizabeth "Betsy" Stumbaugh in Washington County, Maryland. By 1812 the couple was living in Powell Valley, Lee County, Virginia.  

He enlisted in the military on September 4, 1814. The U. S. Army Register of enlistments have  Robert was a private in the war of 1812.  He was in the 3rd US Infantry Company under Company Commander Captain Johnson.  His regimental commander was Colonel A. Arbuckle. His military records say that he was five feet nine and one-half inches tall with gray eyes and brown hair.  He was fair complected.  He was 28 years old when he enlisted.  His occupation at that time was painter and glazier.  He listed his place of birth as Ireland.  He served until March 10, 1815.  Another source said he traveled 230 miles while serving in Captain David Gooding's company of the 16th Infantry Regiment of the Kentucky militia.

After 1812 they lived in Kentucky.  They had seven children:

John Jackson "Jack" or "J. J." Fleming was born June 9, 1812 in Powell Valley.  He married Mary Jane "Little Mary" Mullins, the daughter of John Wesley "Holly Creek" Mullins and Olive "Ollie" Cox.  Mary was the first woman to settle in Wise County.  They raised twelve children in Virginia.  Jack died February 1, 1881.  Little Mary died in 1893.

Margaret "Peggy" Fleming married John Alexander "Turtle Neck Alex: Mullins.  He was the son of Money Makin' Sol Mullins and Sarah Greenfield Cathey.  They lived in Pike County, Kentucky and raised 13 children. 

Phillip "Phil" Fleming was born in 1815.  He married Hannah Minerva Mullins, a sister of Little Mary Mullins.  They had three children and stayed in Virginia.

Lovina "Vina" Fleming was born in Floyd County, Kentucky.  She married John Mullins.

Frederick "Fightin' Fred" Fleming was born in 1821 in Floyd County.  He married Nancy Ann "Annie" Wright, the daughter of Joel Martin and Susannah Wright.  They had twelve children and lived their lives in Kentucky.

William "Whiskey Bill" Fleming was born in 1823 in Beaver Creek, Kentucky.  He married Elizabeth "Letta" Mullins.  They raised fourteen children.

Robert Jefferson "Big Jeff" Fleming  His first wife was Elizabeth Leatha "Lettie" Mullins.  They had elevn children and were married for twenty years. He never married but had six children with Esther Manerva "Easter" Bentley, the daughter of Thomas Bentley and Margaret Mary Crace.  Big Jeff divorced Lettie and married Margaret Ann "Peggy" Rose.  They had eleven children.  That is 28 children for Big Jeff.  However, I won't be suprised if I find another child somewhere with another woman.  There must be a lot of stories out there about Jeff.